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Love is never less valuable or credible

Published: Thursday, March 18, 2010

Updated: Friday, March 19, 2010 07:03

By no means do I flatter myself by supposing that I can undo nearly 2,000 years of entrenched ‘popularized' religious belief structures that are used as reasons to establish (or disestablish) groupings of people. Mr. Humpherys has presented an Augustinian model of "love the sinner, hate the sin" in a framework that addresses homosexuality. He humbly reiterates that the true love shared between two people should be respected as it is a "dim reflection of the divine love shared in the Trinity." He then proceeds to platform himself against an argument of acceptance of acts of homosexuality based on nature vs. natural; where natural is reflective of occurrences; and nature presented as in a form of being.


I would like to address the Augustinian philosophy of "love the sinner, hate the sin:"  I am experiencing righteous indignation over the usage of this heuristic in the context of "acts of homosexuality." It is extremely condescending, and indicates more intolerance than it does acceptance as professed by the Church. I agree that sin from a perspective of engaging in immoral acts is horrible, because it is through immoral acts that we fail to recognize value and dignity in our neighbor — of whom is also made in the image of God.


Homosexual acts are not the pinnacle of a failure to recognize and value another. Please, explore motivations that are more direct and to the point, like those that lead to more sincere conclusions such as "acts of homosexuality really gross me out, and I don't want to be around people that gross me out!" 


Regardless of the eloquence of your assumptions and the assumptions of those with whom you hold as authority, your homophobia is not masked through this presentation. For me, your honesty is most likely preferred over your well intentioned but false sense of inclusion to "the club." 


When you speak of "the true love," I assume that you mean intimate relating without genital sexual contact. I am by no means going to state that sex is, or should ever be confused with love. I'm also assuming that your careful wording of "homosexual acts" refers to sex. Arguably the act of sex, again, regardless of gender and orientation, does not create an experience void of love — God's or other.


I agree that sexual activity can be most damaging when it's the act by which a person rests their sole intention; when the only end sought is one of somatic gratification. I believe that usury of this kind is immoral and worthy of the title of sin, because often it is an act of relegating another person to the position of being an accessory or a utility, and by doing so, perpetuates failure to recognize value and dignity of another. 


More to the point:  If sexual activity is experienced in an intimate loving relationship between two people, it does not make love any less valuable or credible, nor does it make its participants debased, even in a situation where there are acts of homosexuality. 
The arguments presented in your letter regarding the natural vs. nature remind me of the song in Candide by Leonard Bernstein, "The Best of All Possible Worlds." One need only make the slightest inference which is then quickly drawn to the largest of conclusions with little deliberation, thought, or experience.


As a participant in nature, I have some clues of what the world is like here and there.  Nearly two-millennia of history has proven that the Church has far more limitations in understanding nature than some of the other participants who are, and have been there right along side — Copernicus might be one of the more famous examples. Your "assenting" to the teaching authority of the Church seems much more like a submission to an archaic dogma that provides shelter from uncomfortable and awkward visions of most disturbing "natural" occurrences. 


I cannot validate your presentation of natural and nature as a comprehension of either, and to represent your argument is embarrassing.  You infer that homosexuals suffer from a "chemical imbalance" through your analogy of a non-functioning bird of flight (On a side note, it is not in the nature of certain types of birds to fly). You're less than half a step away from proposing that homosexuals can be "cured" from their "disease" through admonishment, charity, and compassion. Keep your admonishments and charity to yourself because they are self serving, and I will boldly state that you have much to learn about compassion, as do we all.       


In conclusion, please do not expect me to confuse your sermon of protection for respect, no more than I will expect you to distinguish my righteous indignation from anger.  n 


Don Thuleen is Gonzaga graduate.
 

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7 comments

Mike
Thu Mar 25 2010 17:59
@ Anonymous Wed Mar 24 2010 23:48
One of the surprising things that I find about your response and this article is that there are only two possible positions. Either you believe there is nothing wrong with homosexual sex or you are a bigot that hates homosexuals. There is no in between. This kind of stereotypying is part of the problem of this debate. Because I wrote that I both love homosexuals and believe homosexual sex is immoral, I can't be easily pigeon holed into the category of bigot. Therefore, I must be a liar who is really thinking: "Oh, that's just icky." Yet, the homosexual is just as lovable as any human being, and I try to love them as much as I can.

@Jeff
I won't deny that Hell is a real possible, but condemnation is not the path of conversion. The path to conversion is loving the sinner in spite of the sin, to show them the love of God. We must always keep in mind that we are all are broken human beings and that many temptations can be incredibly powerful, especially in a culture in that tells not only that we can, but that we should satisfy any sexual desire. So, while we can't deny that homosexual acts are sinful, we must be mindful of the difficulties and inner sufferings that any sinner is going through. Leave the justice to God, and show people mercy and understanding.

Anonymous
Wed Mar 24 2010 23:48
Jeff,

There are probably a million people who share your opinion on the matter of homosexuality. I doubt seriously that acceptance is the issue addressed in the argument, because there is no way that your conceptions of religious ideology are going to bend enough for you to see anything about a person but their destinations towards Heaven or Hell. Attempts to change opinions like yours are futile. You've made the statement about calling a spade a spade. I think that is exactly what the author is trying to say. Don't mask your discomfort with homosexuality under the pretense of the Bible. You could pick a thousand different points about hundreds of thousands of people of where they fall short in your religious concepts. I find it interesting that yours is homosexuality.

Jeff
Wed Mar 24 2010 17:51
I agree that I am a sinner. But the driving point of the homosexuality discussion is that homosexuals want acceptance of their behavior as not sinful. We need to call a spade a spade. My view of God's mercy is not narrow. God's mercy is extended to all who come unto His Son, believe on Him, and keep His commandments.
Mike
Tue Mar 23 2010 15:43
Jeff, homosexuality understood as an attraction to the same sex is not a sin, but a disordered passion, like many others you and I have. What is the sin is the acting out of that attraction in a sexual way.
Further, I'm going to plain here, you are a sinner. I am a sinner. Everyone is a sinner. By your very narrow view of God's mercy, no person will be accepted into God's kingdom. God's mercy is far greater than we can possibly imagine. Be perfect like the Father is perfect, Christ tells us. Being perfect like the Father is perfect is unlikely this side of eternity, but it is in perseverance and faith in God's mercy that we attain heaven through the mercy of God, not by condemning our brothers and sisters whose heart we do not know, indeed whose hearts are only known by the Father.
Anonymous
Tue Mar 23 2010 11:51
jeff

you have much to learn about love

Anonymous
Tue Mar 23 2010 11:30
Then so be it.
Jeff
Mon Mar 22 2010 17:34
"love is never less credible," a convenient trick by the Deceiver to cloud the mind of the sinner. Remember, no unclean thing can enter the kingdom of God. Thus, anyone that remains in sin cannot enter the kingdom of God. Jesus Christ came to save us from our sins, not in our sins. Homosexuality is a sin, and will always be a sin. As long as a person continues homosexual relationships, practices, acts, etc., they cannot be "accepted" into God's kingdom.






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